apocalyptichousewife.angelfire.comDeconstructing Nancy Lieder's ZetaTalk

-- A Public Service From Apocalyptic Housewife Planet X Survival Guide Ants In Your Pantry Hellion-1957 Earthchanges College Earth Changes Blog Questionable ZetaTalk NEW! Is Methane Solely Responsible for Mass Animal Die-Offs? ZT thinks so. After researching it, you'll be amazed at what was found. WTH? Lieder's Planet X is Shooting a Beam at the Sun? That's no planet. It's a...OMG! Debunking The ZetaTalk Claim That The 2012 Venus Transit Was "Wrong" Nancy Used Red Filters To Fake Second Suns (see 6:50) Shooting from the hip as usual, Lieder called the bi-annual SDO solar eclipse "Planet X's tail wafting"... When confronted with the incontrovertible truth, she tries to laugh it off... "Gee, I shoulda asked the Zetas first." Has Manila Sustained A 40-foot Loss In Coastal Elevation? This Manila restaurant, which sits on a jetty in Manila Bay, says no, it has not! 7 of 10 Will NOT Happen Before The End Of 2010 (and it didn't), neither Did PX Happen Before 2012, and they are still waiting for it. How Can You Trust ZetaTalk When, According To Lieder, The "Zetas" Purposely Mislead Her? Are Zetatalk Shallow Trench Shelters Safe? Imagine using something like this as all hell breaks loose overhead! Insane? Nancy Lieder/Zetatalk doesn't think so. In fact, this is their recommendation for the "common man" if and when Planet X passes by . . . go jump in a shallow open grave! Is The ZetaTalk Recommen- dation of Being at a Several Hundred Foot Elevation Really High Enough? ZetaTalk Recommends Safe Locations To Ride Out A Planet-X Passage; In An Extinction-Level-Event Such As Planet X, Is There Really Any Such Thing as a "Safe Location"? Indonesian Plate Is NOT Collapsing! TruEarth Images ZetaTalk Uses As Proof Are 11 Years Old! The Improbability of Bobbling NASA Cameras The Impossibility Of A Dark Twin Are Volcanoes Inactive For Over 10,000 Years Likely Not To Erupt? Lieder/ZetaTalk on Hale-Bopp & Astrophysicist Prof. James McCanney on Lieder/ZetaTalk Famous Planet X Images That Aren't OTHER REFERENCES www.2012hoax.org Lots of footnotes Planet X Class Action Lawsuit.com ZetaTalk: The Grand Conspiracy ZetaTalk As An Escape From Reality GLP Thread: Zetatalk Exposed GLP Debunkers Thread Zetatalk, Planet X & The Pole Shift Rocky Horror Show Bad Astronomy-"The Planet X Saga: Nancy Lieder" ZetaTalk & Disinformation Where Do These Ideas Come From? Nancy Makes Dr. Boylan's Good, Bad & Ugly List Dear Reader, Welcome to Apocalyptic Housewife's website, celebrating its eleventh anniversary! All the old links are still here, plus many new ones. If you are here for the Survival Guide, the Food Storage information, or the Planet X page, the links are above. If you are here for information about Nancy Lieder and ZetaTalk, read on. This home page has been redesigned to showcase a dangerous internet fraud. PLEASE, if you are relying on survival information from her sites, make sure you carefully research any information you might choose to use. You can also go to Earthchanges College (link above) and ask. Folks there are service oriented and will be glad to help. I stumbled upon ZetaTalk back in 2003, after the Great White Lie had happened, when I was first researching Planet X. I became interested and followed it over the years trying to determine if it was true or not. Back then, there were enough kernels of truth to make it worthwhile pursuing. Later, in 2009, I joined poleshift.ning.com (psning), a social network focusing on earth changes and a possible coming crustal poleshift, from the ZetaTalk perspective. Nancy Lieder, owner of ZetaTalk, joined within a month. This is how I unfortunately came to meet her. In 2010, we were both made administrators of psning. Things were fine until Lieder had a meltdown over some business matters during a staff meeting. It was a jaw-dropper that was the start of some very eye-opening experiences, which were documented in the original A Modest Rebuttal . Not long after I departed poleshift.ning (because of her harassment), and started a new website at earthchanges.ning.com, Lieder launched a defamation campaign against me. That is what the original A Modest Rebuttal was rebutting, her malicious allegations. It piqued my curiosity as to why she was hitting me so hard, so I began researching her past on the internet. This page is the culmination of that research. What happened to me on psning and afterward was not an anomaly because it had happened before, in another group with which Lieder was involved (links in right column). Recently, some of her original discussions on psning's administrative website from 2010 surfaced and became the basis of A Modest Rebuttal, the 2012 Update , linked at the top of the right column of this page. Let Nancy Lieder tell you, in her own words, what she's really like. Below that link are personal testimonies of various people who worked closely with her that show what lies beneath Lieder's facade and her purported crusade to help the "common man" in the name of an alleged benevolent extra-terrestrial race from the Zeta Reticuli star system, whose emissary she claims to be. You will see behind her claim of being "service to others (STO)" and her claim of "the infallibility of ZetaTalk." Both are bald-faced lies. Poleshift.ning started out as a good idea, but Lieder has turned it into a mind-control cult and people's lives are being negatively affected. In fact, in Co S's document (link in right column), there are allegations of her using psychological operation weapons (psyops) against her moderators and others to explain (cover up) why moderators left and why they were exposing her. She is using a psyop tactic in deceiving moderators into believing the former moderators were under "psychic attacks," that what they were saying (their confessions) were the "true lies." It sounded like her moderators had to constantly guard their thoughts against attack. We are all designed with critical reasoning faculties. It helps us, among other things, to discern and differentiate data. One of its many benefits is detecting deception and danger. Imagine having a normal, natural critical thought and immediately having to suppress it because it was probably a "psychic attack." Scientology uses a similar tactic, though not clothed as a "psychic attack." If you have a critical thought about Scientology it means, in the Scientology "spiritual technology" belief system, that the critical thought is emanating from something you did wrong, some crime you committed against Scientology. It's an effective tool to deflect a valid criticism against a person or organization right back onto the person and introvert them. Once your criticism is known to Scientology personnel, it begins the process of "being sent to Ethics" and having to do rigorous "ethics conditions" (that include humiliation, as well as degrading, physical work like cleaning toilets with a toothbrush and scrubbing rugs with a sock). It is also a very effective technique to get "offenders" to self-police their thoughts to avoid the degradation and humiliation (should they desire to stay in the group). And, this is just one component of mind control. There are many others. However, while the nomenclature and tactics differ, Lieder's "psychic attack" caper (used in the criminal sense) has the same effect. As a quick aside, both groups have a "salvation" aspect which some people fear more than mind control ... being ex communicated (banned) from the group. Further, no matter how obvious an adept Lieder is at twisting the truth 180 degrees, there are always some who buy into deception no matter how much truth is presented because they want to belong so badly as it has become their reality, their life, their "tribe," thus some continue to stay under her mind control (though those numbers are rapidly diminishing). This also lends weight to the question voiced by many people who wondered how an old lady could do everything she's done (Zetatalk is a vast body of li...